Zadie Smith on Populists, Frauds and Flip Phones

This is a wonderful podcast with Zadie Smith. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Everything that comes out of her mouth is so perceptive, intelligent, eloquent, humble and sensitive. What an extraordinary human being and outlook on the world. 

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000669798309